Piers Morgan and Christian Amanpour. Out of their league but in a league of their own

20 Dec

Economist and gun laws expert John Lott was “interviewed” on CNN bhy Piers Morgan and Christian Amanpour.  Here’s Lott’s account of what happened and what the facts are:

From my appearance last night on CNN.

LOTT: Every place that guns have been banned, murder rates have gone up. You cannot point to one place, whether it’s Chicago or whether it’s D.C. or whether it’s been England of whether it’s been Jamaica or Ireland. 

MORGAN: I’m sorry, but that’s just a complete lie. It’s a complete lie. The gun murder rate in Britain is 35 a year, average. You need to stop repeating a blatant lie, about what happens in other countries. . . . You lied about it the other day. 

After Morgan then claimed multiple times that I had lied, the video then shows that I tried to explain that there is a difference between levels and changes.  In an obvious setup, Christiane Amanpour claimed that the murder rate in the UK had initially been flat after the ban and then fell.

Amanpour: After Dunblane, they put in these bans, they put in these punishments, fines, jail sentences, etc. and its true that straight afterwards there wasn’t a huge change, but 2002/2003 until 2011 the rate plummeted by 44%.

Amanpour was clearly taking about the number of homicides so here is a chart for that (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Number of offences currently recorded as homicide”).  She is right that there were substantial increases in law enforcement activity, which one suspects should have been associated with reduced crime rates, but, even with that, how can she make the claims that she did about homicides? 
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